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So this is from the Teen Titans Go! comic #39: Stupid Cupid. Basically, Larry was trying his hand at match-making after Star & Rob just got together (boo! hate with seething burning fiery passion!!!) He made crazy pairings like: Speedy/Cheshire, Bumblebee/Herald, KidFlash/Random-Citizens-to-make-Jinx-jealous. There were some others, but I can't recall exactly which ones ^^;
I found this so funny when I saw it, I mean... My favorite pairing just so happens to be right next to each other, both asking for shipping to stop... C'mon, that can't be coincidence!!! I think they were trying to tell us RobRae fans that the battle was pretty much over & won. ... But that doesn't mean we'll give up easily.
So yeah, I'm a RobRae shipper. Have been since '04, & it was really the only thing I ever really supported as a kid. Nowadays, I'm pretty much cool with whatever pairing EXCEPT RobStar. It's just too cliché. Others, if I find a good reason not to support it, then I shall give that reason.
Anyone notice how Wondergirl is just kinda standing there? I wanted to crop her out, but that would've meant cutting out Raven's little part. :/ Ah well, maybe no one noticed until I pointed it out...

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ScarletDraco Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2015   General Artist
XD
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Jacob-Cross Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2015
Lol wow XD
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ThinkPink866 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lmfao
I saw this the other day and I was literally like "Damn..." XD
Very ironic indeed. But on the upside, I am SO happy that I'm finding other RobRae shippers out there.
At one point I thought I was the only one lol
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IcyKixz260 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I don't ship RobRae (hate with a passion, sorry) but I still SO felt the irony. ;_; So much irony.
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BabsDC Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
LMAO! Hilarious :rofl:
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014
Glad to see this still makes people laugh! :D thank you!
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BabsDC Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
np:D
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zack0809 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
But ew Robin period
He's such an emo douche
That's why I like BBxRae, he's fun and balances her out.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014
Okay, One: it's things like this that give BBRae shippers bad name.
YOU CLEARLY SEE THAT THIS IS A PRO-ROBRAE THING, SO WHY???? WHY BOTHER EVEN COMMENTING IF YOU HATE IT??? THERE ARE TONS OF BBRAE PIECES OUT THERE FOR YOU TO ENJOY, SO WHY WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS?
You can love BBRae, I can love RobRae. I have my reasons for loving my ship, you have yours. If you'd like me to calmly explain some of those reasons -& there by start a healthy & mature debate- there are better ways to go about it.

Two: Please enlighten me. How exactly is Robin "emo"? And a "douche"? Go on, I'd LOVE to hear your reasoning. I love analyzing these characters, so go on. Break down Robin's psyche and prove to me that "he's such an emo douche". Because honestly, I LOVE Robin's character. In pretty much any incarnation. Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Damian Wayne, Carrie Kelley, all the Robins have their pros & cons and I love each & every one of them for it (except Tim Drake for whatever reason. I haven't found a reason to like him/purely hate him just yet... :laughing:)
So go on and tell me why my favorite Robin is oh, so terrible. (And please, when you do it, leave the shipping wars out of it).
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BabsDC Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hey I think you are totally right I'm BBxRae but I love RobxRae anyway sorry if this comment bothers you :D
I just wanna let you know that not aaaall of BBxRae shippers are like this guy... I mean I'm not like that :)
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014
Thank you, and no, don't worry, it's things like this that restore my faith in BBRae shippers.
There are always plenty of awesome shippers, but it's ones that shove their ship down "opposing" shippers throats. :steaming: Ugh, it's like they never learn!
Thank you for being mature about it!

Now, question, when you say you also love RobRae... Do you mean romantically or platonically? Cuz I've met some people that really love Robin & Raven's friendship and then... But it makes sense if you multi or poly ship as well.
idk, it's just great to see another calm BBRae shipper, you guys are like unicorns :laughing:
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BabsDC Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
OMG! I always wanted to be a unicorn... WTF? random answer :wtf:

When I was younger I was totally RobRae basically because I hate Starfire and such a cool character like Robin should have a badass girl like Raven :la:
But a couple of years ago I met the awsomeness in person: Babs Gordon or Batgirl. Since then Dick and Babs is my OTP forever :love:!
and I started to ship Beast Boy and Raven because I saw a couple of comics books with them together and they were just so cute to deny it :P!

 So that's my shipping history :D! anyway Grayson is such a womanizer... I mean he should be with Raven at some point right??
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014
Haha, ok that makes sense (& I mean really, who doesn't ship Batgirl & Robin at least a lil bit? :XD:)
Also... idk if you know but... Raven & Dick were together in the comics. Here's a link to post on my tumblr, it's Dick & Raven's first kiss haha Really old school comic style right there, but you get the idea. /They were canon for a brief time/ It turned out that Raven didn't know how to differentiate between platonic love & romantic love, and she was mores forcing her own emotions onto Dick instead, but still!
//RobRae shippers can say we were canon for a short time// :laughing:

Hey, BR shippers want to use the comic-canon excuse, then so can we! ;)
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BabsDC Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yep I used that picture as a wallpaper Kaori Fujimiya (Total Shyness) [V1]
I also remember that at that moment Raven was like getting into Dick's mind and making him dream with her... steamy stuffMelting Smiley Emoticon img37.imageshack.us/img37/9896…
That's why they were getting confused... but I wished their relationship would have last longer than a single kiss rightDog Face ?? media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7hwkj…
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zack0809 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
youtu.be/XiWJ3qGlh1U?t=1m25s
This part for the emo part. He needs to chill, he's too CONSTANT VIGILANCE. Makes him a dick, I hate people who are too serious, and he's WAY too serious. He's a good leader, and fights well, but as a PERSON, I don't like him. He gets my respect. But you don't have to like those you respect.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014
Are you forgetting the context of that moment though? They wrote that scene to set up the mood for the episode, and for the lesson that Starfire brings back to her friends later on.
I may have a different view of what constitutes an "emo", so that moment looks more like someone who's anger limit has been hit & is reacting in an understandable, if immature (but hey, they're still teenagers, what can you do?), way.
Please, you'll need a bit more consistent evidence for your case. Have any other "emo moments"? Because just ONE instance (which I obviously don't agree with at any rate), isn't going to cut it.

Yes in season 1, Robin was on non-stop detective mode. But as the series progresses, he begins changing that tune. He starts to realize that he needs to put the team above the mission (esp, once the events in "Haunted" pass, and when he relates to Cyborg's obsession with Brother Blood to his own obsession with Slade.)
Over the course of the rest of the second season, he recognizes Slade's grip on Terra, when BB reminds him that "we didn't give up on you" (paraphrasing here), he gives Terra that second chance to redeem herself. Unlike his S1 self, who would have kept the mission focused on bringing Terra in, rather than actually helping her.
And he's not always 100% serious throughout the whole series. He relaxes a lot more than Raven's been known to, so why don't you hate her as well? If anything, Raven's more serious than Robin is! (and don't use the go-to "it's her powers" excuse, because might I remind you of the Malchior-incident? She has to potential to remain in control & lighten up, but she chooses not to/has no reason to.)

If you respect him so much, why call him a "douche" and a "dick"? Even something as simple as that. You could have said, "I don't like Robin, because he feels too serious for Raven. I prefer BBRae, b/c I think he could lighten her up."
But again, that brings me back to "If you don't like RobRae, why comment on this in the first place?"
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zack0809 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Raven cracks sarcastic jokes OFTEN. That's not really serious. And he IS a douche and a dick, but he's a great leader. You've got to acknowledge character's faults. And for more emo moments, I'd say when he fights with Cyborg at the beginning is another good example, plus the knowledge that he decides to branch out and work alone as Nightwing. He does a great job, and is a respectable hero. But he's an unlikable person. And going the way of the ship, two characters that are similar enough shouldn't get together, because they wouldn't improve each other. What I like about BBRae is that she could make him a bit more serious and he could make her less so. They balance.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014
Yes, she's part of the deadpan humor side of the show. But what else?
I honestly don't see her type of humor & Beast Boy's mixing all that well. Which is one of the reasons I don't like supporting a lasting romantic relationship between the two. Why do they *need* someone to make themselves more/less serious, when a friendship could do that just as well? (i.e. look to BB's character change in S5, when he begins to take the role of leader. His friends are in danger b/c of the Brotherhood of Evil & he finally takes charge) Character change can be a good thing, but not when it drastically changes the character in such a way that makes them different from their set personality. It's not true character development. (BB was still able to become a more serious leader, but he kept his cheery disposition, even making jokes when they defeated the Brain)
That being said, I could see a short-term relationship between those two. Just like a high-school romance. They try it out, but they'd realize their differences & come away from the relationship with a *healthier* respect for each other's radically difference personalities.
And that's why I see the potential for Robin's & Raven's relationship lasting much longer than that. They already have those similarities, and they have a great understanding for each other in the first place. And that's why I'd love to see it explored. Yes, they are similar in some respects, but they are also two very different characters with their own personalities. I'd like to see where they would take that.

That fight only adds to my S1 Robin argument. They start off the show with a leader/team that's just starting out & trying to figure out how they mesh. Of course there's going to be some friction between these kids. And why is Robin "emo" because of that? Cyborg yelled & fought with him as well. Was is because of that "moping around the tower" afterwards? Because, ya gotta take into account: cartoon for 8-10yr olds. They have to make it obvious for the kids that he regretted his fight with Cyborg. I always thought that for being one of the first episodes, it was a good way to start a show, finding their storytelling footing & bringing in the kids, getting them interested in these character interactions that they could relate to, i.e. having a bad fight with a close friend.
Maybe it's just my perspective, but continuing to call anyone a "douche" & a "dick" is still disrespectful. There are nicer ways to explain his character faults.
You still call him a good leader, but you hate him? Are there any more things you can think of, or do you just not like him? If you just *don't* like him, I think I'll understand that a lot more than the reasons that you've been pointing out so far. They just feel so faulty to me. Because, while yes, Robin has those flaws, we see him work through those. Just like the others work through theirs.
None of these characters are perfect, but that's why I love them. They're made to be easy to relate to & iconic. Robin may be hardheaded, but he's driven & passionate as well. And by the end of S1, he learns the difference. And I think that's beautiful, and a great lesson for kids to learn.
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zack0809 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Ahh, so you don't believe in opposites attract. When people are too similar to each other, they get bored, because there's nothing new to add. When people are different, they have to work at it, and they learn from each other, improving themselves and seeing new perspective. And when I say he's a dick, I'm calling it as is, that's a fault I see. It's exactly as Raven put it, "Great, Robin, more yelling will definitely stop all the yelling." He's a kid who's learning how to be an adult properly, and I don't like kids. As I keep saying, I just don't like him, he's a great hero, but an asinine person.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014
And here is where we are reaching an impasse.
I see this as a character that learns to grow up as the series progresses. It feels to me like you're stuck on his S1 persona, & can't see the growth I see in the same light.
Fine. And thank you elaborating in a much more appropriate way, /even though I still disagree, but what can we do? :shrug: At this point, it's beating the dead horse, trying to change each other's minds.
I see character growth. And I love this character. You don't. And I can respect that just a little bit more now.

I don't think you've answered my question from earlier though.
If you hate Robin, or this pairing, (or merely "dislike it" either way) why even *bother* commenting on it?
You clearly see that this is a pro-RobRae piece, so why bother?
I don't go around to RobStar/BBRae fanarts/fics & say "ewww, Star/BB's too preppy cheerleader/happy-go-lucky for Robin/Raven. S/He needs someone s/he can actually relate to & who's more like him/her"
Because that's disrespecting the other person's preference in a romantic ship.
And yet again, why RobStar/BBRae & RobRae/BBTerra shippers start to go waaaay over board with the shipping wars, because either side can't leave well enough alone & let the other side enjoy their respective ships.

Please, next time you see something pro-RobRae/anything-else-pro-Robin. Start with a more respectful statement of your opinions. If not respectful to the ship/character, then at least in regards to the human being on the other side of the binary codes who actually *likes* those things.
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Imccutie1999 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Student General Artist
I agree.:-)
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RICHARD-BOY Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
Which issue of teen titans Go! comic is this from?
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
(pretty sure I mentioned the issue # in the description but just in case) It's #39: Stupid Cupid.
And just in case you'd like to read it for yourself here's a little link, but you didn't get this from me ok? haha
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RICHARD-BOY Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014
wow thanks :D
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014
No problem... and just cause...
There are more TTG! comics here...just incase you'd want to read up. Teen Titans fans gotta have each other's backs :)
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Shadow-DJ Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Actually Speedy/Cheshire and Bumblebee/Herald are actual couples in the comics.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014
Yes, I heard about that... I guess my attempts at written irony don't bode as well on the internet as my attempts at verbal irony. I will try to be more clear when I am being sarcastic.
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Shadow-DJ Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Gotcha ^^;
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itaZuran Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see I'm in the company of another anti-RobStar pro-RobRae fan? :la:
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013
:iconlachoirplz: YES!! XD (although, I've tried toning down my RobStar hatred.... It burns dimly these days... :sniff:)
But it's always lovely meeting another RobRae supporter! :wave: Here's to the birds! :drunk: :D
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ShonenJump4eva Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013
The crazier thing is that now Speedy/Red Arrow and Cheshire is real in the world of Young Justice.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
I think that there was a comic before hand where Roy Harper & Cheshire had hooked up.... had a kid :eyes: That was the main reason why it happened in YJ, as far as I know. Though, I'm sure that the TTG comics helped :lmao:
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ShonenJump4eva Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
Ah.  That is a possibility...same with Bumblebee and Herald since the guy she was dating in Young Justice who became Guardian was supposed to be Herald (I wanted him to be Cyborg though :().
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
I remember that Khary Payton was Aqualad in YJ... & I think Kevin Micheal Richardson was Mal Duncan (Guardian/Not Herald)... But in TT, Khary Payton was Herald... It all kinda comes full circle in way... :shrug:
There was a rumor that Cyborg was already part of the League by the time the YJ team was formed but... I've never seen it myself & no one's ever given me proof of Cy's existence on 'Earth-16'. :facepalm: I bet they would've had him in the 3rd season... if there had ever been one, of course.
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ShonenJump4eva Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
Yes it does.  I also find it weird how YJ Aqua Lad also voices TT and TTG Cyborg...and YJ Black Manta.

Given how in the new 52 he is, that does make sense.  At least we have Justice League Doom and Justice League Flashpoint Paradox (although in that one he's a government agent).  At least Plastic Man got to be a league member in YJ.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
He did do the voice for Black Manta! Totally forgot about that! :faint: These actors man...

It's kinda surprising that, if you look at any point in the DC timeline... You really can't find a hero that hasn't been associated with some group. (sometimes at least two different groups) Everyone needs to team up at some point! XD
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ShonenJump4eva Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
I know.  Not sure if it's racist or he just has that much range?

Indeed.
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
Well, considering that Tara Strong's been up & down the voice scale (Bubbles from PPG & Terrence from Foster's Home are some examples that come to mind) ... I'm sure to beat the competition, all VAs have to have some sort of range to their voices :)
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MangaArtfansTwin Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013
HAHA! So true.

Wait.

You like RobRae...

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Oh.

I'm more of a BBRae fan. :iconsweatplz: I'm not against RobRae, but I prefer BBRae.

I know, I know. Robin and Raven have a mental connection and whatnot. That is one of the strong points to have them be together. (Not to mention they ACTUALLY got together in the comics.... ah, well. So did BB and Raven.) Okay, I was talking/ typing to myself there...

Hehe...Rambling..Oops. ^^"

Anyways, what I mean to say is if you like the pairing, like it! :) It's your OTP!!! :heart:

Love your motivational poster. Very funny. ;)
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013
Hey, as long as it got a good laugh out of you ;) Then the poster has done it's job :lmao:

I really don't mind BBRae (I squee in delight at their little moments just as much as their fans :squee: ... sometimes. :giggle:) It really depends on my mood. They can be really cute together, they've got that opposites attract thing goin', they've got a lot of build-up in the series that doesn't go anywhere, but could... but then there's all these little things too.
Mostly stuff my dad says to ruin shows for me (like saying that their kids would look like freaks... which is right, she's purple, he's green. Not exactly the most aesthetically pleasing color combo) He usually just reminds me of stuff that happened in the comics... not kid friendly stuff :iconbyebye-plz:

All in all, RobRae's been my OTP since forever, but growing up has allowed me to make my peace with other pairings & even come to like them almost equally. (Except RobStar. Just. NO.)
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MangaArtfansTwin Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013
Great. I'm glad we both don't bash on most other pairings.

Forgive me for asking, as I know you're not the only one that hates RodStar, but why do you hate it? (I actually root for that pairing..............:iconsweatplz: )
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013
Well, besides that it obviously interferes with RobRae ;) It was.. too cliché for me. Even when I was about 7/8 when TT first came out. I couldn't stand sitting through most of the RobStar eps unless they were really funny. (now I enjoy them for what they are, but the little 8 yr old-me will scream at present-me sometimes :lmao:)

It's like hoping that the quarterback & the head cheerleader get together. It's been done & it's fairly boring to me.
I want to see the two best friends become more than that. See the unexpected hero get the guy. In a lot of ways, I've been in that situation before, and I like the possibilities that RobRae presents.

I love Star, she's an awesome character & in many ways, she's a great metaphor for little girls. To show them that you can be girly & still be tough. But... she's not very down-to-earth (LOL! gotta love double entendres!!). And while in many respects, Robin could use someone like that to balance him. For a long-term relationship, I don't see it lasting. It certainly wouldn't last for me if the guy couldn't have a serious discussion every once in awhile. But then again, I might just be projecting my love life (or lack thereof :giggle:) onto these characters.

Okay, done. :phew: Wow, that came off as a rant. Ah well. OH! But one more thing! I know I've come off as hating RobStar, but... I'm really blowing it out of proportion. It really depends on my individual mood for the day, whether I'm going to hate it with burning passion, or simply seethe & get over it ;) :giggle: It's all good, I mean, this *is* a cartoon we're talking about here. :D
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MangaArtfansTwin Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
Yeah. No one should hate-hate them. They are just fictional characters. (But many people still do.....)

well, your points for not supporting RobStar are understandable. Keep loving RobRae if ya love that ship. ;)
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
Thanks for the understanding :D You keep supporting them, and we'll keep up the (friendly) rivalry between our ships ;)
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MangaArtfansTwin Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
Right. Friendly rivalry. Well said. :)
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ChocolateRaccoon Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't read the comics but I LOVE THIS. XD (big Robrae fan)


yay for Robrae
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013
Thanks, always great to see another RobRae supporter. :D

This came from the 'Teen Titans Go!' comics (that were a spin-off of the first series). I'm pretty sure you can find nearly all of them online & some of them are actually really good. Don't knock it till ya try it, y'know? :)
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Wildlordzero Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013
You know that Speedy/Cheshire and Bumblebee/Herald are canon?
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EdenAlicePoe Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013
Yes, I am aware of this fact. Maybe sarcasm doesn't come across as well as I thought it did in print as it does when spoken aloud...
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ForgottenReader Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
You know... there's still a chance that RobRae may become canon.
I am hoping one day that either KFRae (once Wally shows up in the New 52) or RobRae will become canon.
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